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: Hi! Your profile says you speak English, and I can better explain in English. The article is about a segment of the Japanese entertainment (entertainment industry). There are performers of certain style that are called "idols". You can say being a idol is a profession, like being a singer or a dancer. But you can only be an idol when you are young. When idols grow up, they leave the idol industry (it's called "they graduate") and either return to being normal people (e.g. go to college to get a normal profession) or become singers and actors.<br />An "idol" is like a "starlet". It's like if a being a starlet would be a separate profession. A profession for young people.<br />Everything I say will be mainly about the Japanese music industry ("idol singers"). Being an idol is not considered to be a serious profession, it's like "I can sing and dance a little bit and I'm too cute for words".<br />For example, this pop group ([[:en:Shiritsu Ebisu Chugaku|Shiritsu Ebisu Chugaku]]) is actually marketed to have the image of a band of middleschoolers who can't really sing or dance (they actually can sing and dance, though): [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QO6NYTxgc8], [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvbUpuCTk6s].<br />Being an idol (idol singer) means they sing cute songs and are marketed in a certain way. They are targeted mainly to the fans of opposite sex and they are not allowed to have boyfriends/girlfriends. They must be cute and perfect. If they disbehave, they are excluded. (There have been some scandals like that. For example, a person can be banned from activites for a certain period of time for smoking.)<br />All idols have a fervent following (idol fans) who act in a certain crazy way. (It looks like if the fans would "worship" them.) At the concert, the fans do what is called "[[:en:wotagei|wotagei]]". You can say it's like cheerleading, they support their idols when they perform. They actually invent something like a chant (a sequence of shouts) for every song, so the concerts sound very impressive thanks to the fans' chants. Watch the videos: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgvWkn8f_ME] ([[Momoiro Clover Z]]), [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOgp-jKQTF4&feature=channel&list=UL] ([[:en:Cute (Japanese band)|Cute]]).<br />You can say being an idol fan is like a subculture. It's somewhat similar to being a metalhead. Only metal fans [[:en:moshing|mosh]] at the concerts and idol fans do the wotagei.<br />There are many companies that specialize in idols or have a separate section for creating idols.<br />The other thing is that kids usually become idols through auditions. (So it's kind of similar to TV shows like "Americal idol". I'm not sure if the idea and the usage of the word "idol" in this context were stolen from the Japanese.)<br />so as I said, idols are a type of Japanese entertainers who are marketed as cute ordinary people who can sing and dance and model, but are not professional at either singing or dancing or modelling. They are ordinary "girls/boys next door". It's like an idea of an ordinary girl who is so cute and adorable that the whole Japan falls in love with her and everyone wants to marry her or be her boyfriend. (But she can't have a boyfriend cause if she does, people won't worship her anymore.)<br />I would like to explain all this in the article (starting with the English one), but it's too difficult... --[[Korisnik:Moscow Connection|Moscow Connection]] ([[Razgovor sa korisnikom:Moscow Connection|razgovor]]) 11:09, 24 april-травањ 2014 (CEST)
:@[[User:Igorwindsor|Igorwindsor]]: If you add a few sentences based on my explanation to the article, I will use them in other languages too. The English-language article doesn't properly explain anything too. (The English article should be rewritten, but I can't make myself do it. It's too hard, I would have to search for sources, and I don't own any books about idols or anything.) (But if you add a few sentences with a simple explanation here, it would help me to write a better definition in English too.) --[[Korisnik:Moscow Connection|Moscow Connection]] ([[Razgovor sa korisnikom:Moscow Connection|razgovor]]) 11:48, 24 april-травањ 2014 (CEST)
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